In an interview with the publication, one of this year’s Nobel Laureate, Penrose, said, “There was something before the Big Bang and that something is what we will have in our future.” He also claims that evidence of this previous universe is present in black holes.

According to Penrose, who was a contemporary of Stephen Hawking, the Big Bang actually began in the remote future of the previous aeon (duration of one universe).

Penrose said that evidence of this older universe can be found in current black holes and unexplained spots of electromagnetic radiation in the sky (Hawking Points).